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Seriously:why?!
It happened more than 10 years ago,it was made by Karl Bollers SPECIFICALLY to make Sally to look bad and to please the Sonamy fans plus, Sally admitted she was wrong and apologized about it!
She even sacrificed herself to save the planet!
I think that makes up for overreacting one!
She kept blaming herself even after she apologized to Sonic!
And now,with the reboot,it never happened!
Many charaters from different media did even worse thing,yet they get a pass free,but Sally doesn't?!
Piccolo and his father,from Dragonball,killed people,just for fun,Piccolo beated the shit out of Gohan,for training and was forgiven because he sacrificed himself to save Gohan only,then,after they were defeated by the Androids,he snapped at the others by attacking them and sayingand that he was just using them;all because he was upset he was defeated !And he never apologized for that or at least felt bad for it!
Vegeta,always from Dragonball,killed many innocent for fun and money,almost killed Goku and the others!
When he went to Namek,he slauthered an intere village,even killing children! He then left Goku,that just saved his life and planned to kill Gohan and Krillin(he then spared them all,just because he needed them to kill Freezer)
After he was brought back to life,he gloathed about that village he destroied,than after gave them advice on how save Goku(just because he wanted to fight him again),he stole spaceship from Bulma and left!
After he came back,Bulma(who seemed to have forgot that he stole from her,that he wanted to kill them and destroy the Earth and that he was the cause of the death of her friends and her boyfriend) invited him to live on her house!
After he learned about the Androids and that they will kill them all in the future,he still refused  to use the Dragon balls to find the lab and kill their creator before he could have create them,saving the planet easily!
When dr Gero made Bulma,his wife, and his son Trunks crash,he did nothing to save them,and didn't even regret it,saying that he didn't care!
He treated future Trunks like crap,despite everything Trunks did to save his life!
He allowed Cell to become perfect and,even after he was beat up,he still didn't seemed to regret it and made fun of Trunks,that saved him! No one told him how much of a moron and asshole he was for that!
He was then forgiven by Trunks only because he gave a shit when Cell killed him(despite the fact that his reaction came out of nowhere,since he didn't care when Trunks was hurt before and suddenly now he cares!)
And even when Cell was about to destroy the Earth,he attacked only in the end!
In the Buu saga,after they went inside Babidi's base to save Piccolo and Krillin that were turned into stone,he said that they derseved it because they were good!
Then he left himself being controlled by Babidi on purpose,just because he wanted to be evil again and to fight Goku!And because of that Majin Buu was freed !Vegeta's stupidity and ego,put the world in danger again!
He also killed hundred of people in front of Bulma!And he said to Goku that he didn't care about her and Trunks!
Then,again out of nowhere,he cares about them and sacrifice himself pointessly to try to kill Buu!
But it fails,giving to his sacrifice the only porpose to redeem him and to have  excuse for not having someone Goku can fuse with!
Bulma wasn't mad at him!
The didn't tell to Trunks what he did and everyone forgave him!
Yes,he was the one that come up with the plan to kill Buu in the end,but if he didn't let himself being controlled in the first place,NONE of this would have happened!
And in the end he is brought back to life after being dead,for what,2 days?
What about Rogue,from the X-Men comics?
When she forst appeared she was a villain and fought the X-Men several times!
She was obsessed with killing Dazzler because she was jealous of her!
And do you know how she got her super streingh and the ability to fly?
By stealing Miss Marvel's powers and personality almost killing her! And not like it is shown in the X-Men TAS,where Mystique forced her to touch Miss Marvel for too long!
No,in the comics she did it on purpose because she wanted to kill her and then she trowed her in the river!
And she joined the X-Men later only because che couldn't stand Miss Marvel personality trying to take over and because she wanted to freely touch people not because she felt guilty!
She redeemed herself,sure,but still,fans can forgive her,yet Sally is unforgivable?!
Also,in the AvengersVX-Men Rogue absorbed Miss Marvel powers again! And how she excuse herself?By saying that it is a War!
Yeah,Sally admits she was wrong but she is unforgivable,Rogue on the other hand is ok!
And don't get me wrong:I love all this charater mentioned,but it pisses me off that they can be forgiven for doing worse thing,yet Sally cannot be forgiven!
Grow up people!
Amy smashes her hammer on everyone,treats even Cream for having an opinion,gets kidnapped on purpose in Sonic Riders and gets mad at Sonic for saving her and tries to force Sonic into marriage and that's ok?!
Shadow tries to kill Cosmo,in Sonic x,never explaining why and enjoing beating the others up,while tring to kill her!
Yes,he though she was a willing spy,but then,why not just telling the others the truth?!
Also,no charater was mad at Shadow after that!Sonic scolded him,but didn't really seemed to care!
Seriously people stop being hipocrites and get over it!
With the reboot it never even happened!
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:iconrb1996:
Rb1996 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2017
I actually never got what was so bad about this issue if anything really ruined Sally's Character for me then would it be Ether Mecha Madness (seriously no matter how bad the situation is a leader of a group Freedom Fighter should Never try to force fully turn someone into a super fighting robot Fuck Mecha Madness and everything it stante for) or the time frame in with she never did anything against her father (because it makes her more or less the bitch/slave to my least favorite character).

If I had any real problems with Issue 134 its the direct follow up with never actually addressed the selfishness depicted by sally but just like anything bad ever done by her daddy (my most hated Character in all of sonic) just gets ignored and pretended it never happen (thanks Pender for never following any buildup done by anyone but your self).

But I have to complain at one thing in your litter text here and this is the End that you felt the need to show "how bad Amy is" with is kind of stuff that really minimize your credibility

Also the comparing of Rouge and Vegeta is kind of problematic because nether of this 2 was until way later considered to be a good guy both stared as villains then grow over being anti-Heroes to finally become real heroes so there was a long story act about there change Sally's didn't come until way latter as an after thought with little to no kind of arc to it or in other words it was executed that bad than many just didn't care.

Non the less I like Ian's depiction of Sally and especially how she is in the new universe were non of this crap ever happened.  
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
I agree. The former writers didn't know how to write Sally and some of them hated her!
Thankfully is all over!
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:icontecuciztecatlocelotl:
As a Sonally/SatAM hater I agree that Sally does not deserve all that hate for that badly written chapter. Even this shit is better than 134.

As a Sonally hater there's a lot ot better and more realistic ways to make Sally break up with Sonic (or viceversa). I can come with better ideas of how to stop those two being a couple... and yet Bollers choose the most bullshit way posible.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Again,that issue was made to make Sally look bad,that is why it was handled that way.
That issue isn't canon anymore since the reboot.
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:icontecuciztecatlocelotl:
I heard that, but I will always insist that Bollers did not try to make Sally look bad. We just need to look to all his work to know that he only was trying to make his typical overly-dramatic scenes, but the 134 one failed epically. Making Sally look bad was not his intention, he was just incompetent at writing their break up.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
He admitted that he did it to pair up Sonic and Amy because he knew the ship was popular.
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:icontecuciztecatlocelotl:
Like you say, he KNEW the pairing was popular, what better way to make profits more than paddering a big fanbase? He only did it for profit, not because he liked it.

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...Sonic will find two new potential love interests in the form of teammates Fiona and Amy...

Knowing Karl Bollers, most likely was only going to make sonamy happen for a while (just to pander to the sonamy fanbase), then with Fiona and then going back to Sally again, make relationship to broke again, going to Amy again, going to a new girl... and repeat the same process because Archie was very uncreative in general and loved back then making Sonic a crappy a Mexican soap opera. I believe Amy was going to receive the similar treatment like Mina: getting Sonic for a while while not getting him at the end.

Karl Bollers before all that shit intentionally made Amy to look bad in issue 79-80 and make her look a terrible romantic option for Sonic. Also, I remember that I saw an issue years before the slap that Archie made the middle finger to Sonamy fans in the question/answer seccion (don't remember what issue, I need to search it).

But anyway, no matter the way he was planning the idea was very stupid in general. Making the relationship a secret so Sally doesn't find out? WTF?!!!!
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Rb1996 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2017
Fun fact Mina was created because Boller wasn't allow to ship sonic and Amy so he created Mina as his replacement Amy.
(I ones even heard that on the question if Amy is going to do anything any time soon he answered that Amy isn't going to do much and mina is going to place amy) 

But Sega ones again said No to SonAmy (I guess that there didn't even pay enough time to see that sonic is constantly in romances with others wiche is the reason now that sega is a little more focused on the comics is going sure that there wound be any romances story's with sonic any longer) So he has to hug sonic up with Fiona.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Yeah
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LGee14 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017
I just hate it that they portrayed Sally in a bad way and the fanbase dislikes her just for that.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017
Yeah!
Thankfully Sally apologized,sacrificed herself for the planet and that issue is not canon anymore!
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TrueSonicSpirit Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Thank goodness somebody called this out. After so many Issue since that slap scene you think people would of gotten over it but just like Shadow and 06 the fanbase refuse to let shit go. I'm probably one of the few people in the dragon ball fanbase that still doesn't see Vegeta as a true hero until the final episodes of the Buu arc and GT where he actually DID good for others instead of "I only help because I want to be the one to finish him". I question how people like Vegeta and Rogue do awful shit and get rewarded and Sally does one god damn thing and the whole fanbase is really to throw stones at her.

I'm still waiting on how Bulma just magically forgives Vegeta after hating him for what he did in the Saiyan saga and fearing him in the Namek saga just to treat Vegeta like he's a child in the early Trunks saga even if she still see Vegeta as an asshole. She even fucking slept with this dude and got knocked up by him and everyone act like it was normal except for Goku upon hearing about it. If anything Sally deserve way more reward for being mature about it and admitting she was wrong unlike everyone exist who did wrong didn't give a fuck and every character go through a short term memory lost and forget the characters did anything. 
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Rb1996 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2017
Well for one was Vegeta not seen as a hero even in story until way later an stared out as a villain to grow to become an Anti-hero during the Cell Arc and becomes a full hero by the time we reach the finally of the boo arc so people can like him because he didn't do anything bad after he becomes a true hero.

And the issue with Sally is that form one wouldn't this be addressed until way latter into the series and even then never had to face any real consequences and unlike Vegeta was she always suppose to be a true hero so having a hero do this is way less acceptable as with an Anti hero or a villain especially if he has to fact real consequent for his doing.

Also the thing with vegeta is Bulla was always rather attracted to Bad dudes and also very how to say 
superficial and actually as DBA  Vegeta pointed out didn't he do a dame thing on earth so there is that.
But most important is that no one could do anything against him because he was to strong. 

But I never understand why this is the go to issue for sally hating I mean If I would want to talk shit about her would I use Metal Madness or any of the 2 dotzend issues were she is nothing more then her father's bitch because she don't have the streng to call him out or just to say that if he can't accept that she isn't his pupped that he can take her princes titel away and she would care But nope she of cause is just her father little royal bitch.
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Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Thank you! :-)
I think the same!
I like Vegeta,but only after the Buu Saga and yet some people want him to be the asshole he used to be-_-
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:icongrandmetroviper:
GrandMetroViper Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriously I still love this franchise and it has the most dedicated fandom on the planet. But some of these guys need to let shit go and just move along the only reason to be mad is to be mad at one's self for not just accepting and letting bygones be bygones. It's one of the most annoying aspects if you ask me it has been a decade it's time to just keep going forward because how are you to progress if all you're worried about is what was behind you.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Exactly! Keep bringing this up won't erase it: what happened,happened and cannot be changed so it's best to get over it!
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:icongrandmetroviper:
GrandMetroViper Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You know how people are plain and simple they want to keep dwelling on the past and that is an implored theme of the franchise. This inability to let the past just be content with itself in its own time. 
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Yeah,they really need to learn to move on!
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:icongrandmetroviper:
GrandMetroViper Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed
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:iconpsyco-the-frog:
Psyco-The-Frog Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
Oh god thank you for calling this out. My whole thing is, this issue happened, what, a decade ago?
"Looks it up"
So yeah, the comic was released "March 2004". Forget about making any good points, which you do well BTW, why the fuck are people still bitching about 1 comic issue, literally 1 month away from being 13 years old and has long stopped being relevant to the series? Damn do retards in this fanbase hold a grudge.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
You are welcome:-)
People still call this out because they need some excuse to hate Sally-_-
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:iconpsyco-the-frog:
Psyco-The-Frog Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
Honestly, me already knowing many of the fuckboys pull this shit for the exact reason why anything they spit shit on, I should've have needed to ask, lol.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
Yeah.
Thanks for the fave:-)
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:iconpsyco-the-frog:
Psyco-The-Frog Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
No problem. Funny how I came to thank you for one and ended up having to give one back to ya. 8-)
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017
Yeah:-)
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:iconcaptriskyboots:
CaptRiskyBoots Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Isn't Issue 134 the same issue where Sally slapped Sonic and called him selfish?
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017
Yeah,the one made specifically by the writers Karl Bollers to make Sally look bad and to put Sonic and Amy togheter to please the Sonamy fans!
The one that happened over 10 years ago,that Sally regret it,apologized for it and even sacrificed her life to save the planet!
Did you read the journal?
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Nathancook0927 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 23, 2017  Hobbyist
I Forgive Sally but not Ken Penders & Karl Bollers it was their fault that Sally was in this mess even today even if the slap was erased from the story in the reboot fans still held on to their anger as for me I was a little mad at Sally for acting out of character but I continued to read the story until after Penders & Bollers left and Ian Flynn took charge he'd fixed Sally even had her apologize to Sonic for the slap but Sonic forgave her because he understood what she was going through plus her father was in poor state mental heath and wasn't making the right choices for Sally so I blamed Sally's Father for not just being a jerk to his kids but also being a jerk to Sonic and I was glad the reboot changed him from a grumpy old king to a much healthier King and got rid of Pender's influences when I first started watching Jawbreaker's video I began to learn a lot about why I never saw Sally in anything else but the Comics because of the history of bad writers like Penders & Bollers & bad fans, I do like Ian Flynn work I wish fans weren't such hypocrites towards him and plus Sega of Japan inforce the mandates on Archie at least Ian Flynn talked with them on agreeing to banned relationships from the comics since the fan wars were getting out of control Ian Flynn could not take it no more and started to no longer allow relationships which means no Sonally and no Sonamy so that right no one wins in the end. 
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Yeah,and I HATE how people say to the Amy haters to judge Amy from Boom,even if that Amy isn't the same as the main series,is turned smarter to make her look better and has many traits of Sally's personality; while they judge Sally from the past writing and ignore how she changed!
Those hypocrites!
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:iconnathancook0927:
Nathancook0927 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 23, 2017  Hobbyist
Yeah I Agree!
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Why can't people let this go?! Did they never did or say something as terrible?! I doubt it!
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:iconnathancook0927:
Nathancook0927 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017  Hobbyist
By the way I made a Sally Picture in Star Wars Rouge One Style.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Saw it:it looks really good:-)
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:icongreendingo777:
GreenDingo777 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
this why most of us described Sally as a punching bag to the series and fanbase. :(
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Also,thanks for the fave:-)
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:icongreendingo777:
GreenDingo777 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
no prob.:)
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Yeah,even when she admits she is wrong!
If she shows to be smart,she is a Mary Sue;if she shows flaws,she is an incompetent or a bitch!
People need to stop!
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:icongreendingo777:
GreenDingo777 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
seriously.
they're too stupid.
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Yeah!
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dwaters220 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2016  Student Filmographer
You've made valid points. Plus Sonic was freaking injured during that issue. There's no way he would survive in a war handicapped. He would get killed in a heartbeat if he stepped in that battlefield injured, and even if he did survive, he could possibly lose that arm. Sonic has something TV Tropes would call Chronic Hero Syndrome - TV Tropes. He believes he should save the world by putting his life in peril, even when it's not wise. Also, don't forget that no one made such a reaction when Fiona slapped Tails. Hell I guarantee you that if Amy was the one who slapped Sonic, everyone would be laughing their asses off and call it another "Sonamy moment". Seriously, is it really that hard to simply cut Sal some slack and forgive her after she was genuinely contrite of that unfortunate experience? You should also check this page out.

Issue 134 Review (Or: Putting this story to rest).
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:iconpsyco-the-frog:
Psyco-The-Frog Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
"Hell I guarantee you that if Amy was the one who slapped Sonic, everyone would be laughing their asses off and call it another "Sonamy moment"."
I'm late as hell but you win with this comment. Dunno what you win, but you do. :D
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:iconeveryonemakesmistake:
Everyonemakesmistake Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2016
Thanks:-)
And yes,people not only are ok with Fiona slapping Tails just for being mean,but they also think that she deserve to be forgiven,despite the fact that she never shown any regret for what she did!
Some people even blame Sonic and the FF,saying that they treated her badly,even if she was treated like a normal member!
Some people even got mad at Sally when she rightfully punched Fiona,that was trying to manipulate Tails!
Yeah,Sally is the one to blame-_-How dare she defend Tails?!-_-

I'll check,thanks for the advice:-)
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